Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Orthodoxy v Obedience

One thing that occurred to me to say, which I haven't gotten around to, is that this is not necessarily an "orthodox" v "progressive" debate, though there is usually a strong correlation. A progressive priest isn't automatically going to be so outwardly disobedient. He is capable of respecting his vows while working modestly for changes he thinks are necessary. [This should be obviously true since our priests are the only ones in this era who have publicly called for resignation of their bishop, save the Card. Law case which was extra-ordinary.] An orthodox priest is not immune to disobedience either. Holding particular values and not violating those values are 2 different things. One has to work hard to avoid sin, after all.

Further, as far as Bishop Braxton is concerned, it has been debated whether he's uber-orthodox or not. Some extra-ordinary form devotees in Lake Charles were quite upset when he ended their Mass, but I don't know if that's the whole story. He certainly did not put the kabosh on liturgical dancers at the St. Clare dedication Mass or his own installation Mass here (I think). But he did prohibit Luke Timothy Johnson, a great scripture scholar, from speaking at SIUC's Newman Center b/c of his advocacy for gay marriage and other issues.

There is no doubt that the signing priests are generally on the progressive side of things such as liturgy and authority, while the bishop is more traditional, certainly in terms of hierarchical authority. I am not aware that these priests (Fr. Karban excepted--we know what he thinks) do not accept Catholic dogma (Virgin Birth, Resurrection, etc), though many appear to question matters of discipline and authority.

All that said, an industrious reader sent some additional statistics on the make-up of letter signers and non-signers:

There are 38 active priests in the Diocese ordained 25 years or less.
These are the "John Paul II" priests -- attracted to the priesthood by the late Pope's person, teaching, example. They are the bishops, chancellors, vicars general -- and good parish priests -- in the years to come.
Of these 38 JPII priests, only 5 signed the infamous letter! That's only 13%...
This opposition to the Bishop is generational. Those trained/ordained in the 1960's and 1970's -- who are now in their own '60's and 70's -- are the dissenters.
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I also noted that Bp. Braxton has placed in Belleville obedient priests who did not sign the statement.

One last thing I will note about the priests ordained in the '60s and '70s is that I have read in the Messenger a good many interviews over the past few years with these men as they celebrate anniversaries of ordinations. I am going to speak in generalizations here based on my recollections of those interviews and how they struck me, so please understand. I have gathered that these men were under the impression--as many Catholics worldwide were--that things were going to be radically different upon completion of V2: liturgically, morally, hierarchically. Humana Vitae was a great disappointment to progressives, including priests who were already ordained and models for the young men who were ordained in that period. Well, they have been different, sure, but not what some folks have wanted, hence we have a plethora of dissenting groups in our faith.

I think some of the Belleville priests of that era may have expected to be able to marry and have families. Many discussed in their interviews that they had gone through episodes of depressions. Many outright expressed their disappointment that the "promises of V2" that they were fed as young men have not materialized. Some priests expressed a lack of fulfillment in their vocations. One went so far as to adopt a boy, which is a great act of charity, but the man did it because he felt incomplete as a priest. What I recall to be most troubling was that I did not see any priest say he pursued his vocation because he loved Jesus and His Church.* I don't recall a clear statement that any wanted to spread the Good News. Some did want to serve God's people. One expressed a love for the liturgy, but I thought the way it was put was odd. It sounded like he enjoyed being able to create his own variations. A few older priests discussed the devotional traditions in their homes (probably in the 1940s-50s) being of strong influence, but I did not read anything deeper in the interview, so maybe there's more there.

I detected a great deal of unhappiness among the interviews of priest from the 60-70s era. This is not what they wanted. Sadly for these men, they were fed lies and are "stuck." Many of their co-horts left the priesthood, of course. But these men hang on, hoping to change Jesus' Church. They really need our prayers for healing.
Under any circumstances, being a priest is a difficult vocation day in and day out. All priests need our prayers and support.

St. John Vianney, pray for our priests.

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*You see, this conflict is about whether they love Jesus and His Church, not whether they like Bishop Braxton.

8 comments:

rg said...

But if they didn't love Jesus and his church, they would just leave it. It sure would be easier than trying to fight the hierarchy on anything!

Patrick said...

I hear that today's Chrism Mass went off very well under the circumstances. Many of the priests who signed the letter concelebrated with Bishop Braxton, and he made sure that he greeted every priest at the Sign of Peace.

Good on all of them!

Peggy said...

I have to do a report on the Chrism. It seemed all very civil and proper. I was present, only very partially. I had time constraints due to boy #1'd PM Pre-K as well as having no babysitter for boy #2, who is excessively busy and noisy. We were in the ante-room. I could not hear much very clearly. I could not tell how many priests were present. I'd say at least 50, but I couldn't see any faces from the balcony or back of nave. The good news is no priest responded, "hell no" at the time of renewing vows/promises.

jane chantal said...

Speaking as a former Protestant, I have long wondered why it is that so many Catholics (not speaking necessarily of the So IL priests' group) who are scornful of "the hierarchy" or toward certain Catholic dogmas, don't become Protestants... philosphically, they seem Protestant to me.

I think it is because on a deep level, they recognize the Catholic Church's authenticity...just as I think that many non-Catholics, on a deep level, sense the Pope's authenticity as a moral leader. They sense that his authority is genuine, transcending that of man-made churches or political institutions. He represents the point at which the goalposts stop shifting.

So, even while being outright contemptuous of it -- as in the case of women who insist that their "ordinations" were valid and that consequently they are Catholic priests, for example -- they do not want to feel separated from it.

Dawn said...

Jane-

I've always wondered the same thing. I find it so odd that what they are looking for can so easily be found in one Protestant denomination or other but they won't leave. The part that really irks me is that what we have as Roman Catholics can ONLY be found within the structure of our church, and they either don't understand or don't care that the changes they want would ruin it for the rest of us. I respect the right to believe as one chooses. I just wish they would have the integrity to go and join the church that fits their beliefs rather than trying to make our church change to accomodate them.

That's my two cents worth.

jane chantal said...

That states it beautifully, Dawn.

rg said...

Hmmm... good thoughts ladies. I'll add that I am generally very happy to be a Catholic. Generally if I have a complaint now and then about the hierarchy, I am usually complaining about bureaucracy. Any organization will suffer from bureaucratic necessities, and more so in a large international organization like the Church. Maybe I an guilty of using the terms hierarchy and bureaucracy interchangeably (when I know they are not). Maybe other folks are too... I think it's a good thing that the Church can withstand some internal grumbling. After all, with this many people involved, the only thing we can be certain of is that we won't all agree on everything!

Liz said...

I've been reading thru several days of this uproar. But, as a convert, I think I very much understand why these "dissenters" that you are so scornful of don't leave. I too may thrash under the yoke of the hierarchy (and often feel trapped in an institution of Pharisees); but I can't leave. I am RC because of the mass - because of the understanding that This is Bigger than You and Me, that the understanding we have of Eucharist just isn't present in the protestant Christian Communions.

I just don't want to be separated from this part of the Body of Christ. But that doesn't make me a mindless follower of the hierarchy, and it certainly doesn't relieve me of the frustration of trying to reconcile with decisions and interpretations that my gut tells me I just can't agree with.

So, keep praying for both factions in this dispute. This sort of internal strife has gone on the Church from the time of Peter and Paul - and I expect it will continue until the Second Coming.